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So I regularly browse the artistic nude category. I do this not to police or discriminate, but because I enjoy looking at artistic nudes and collecting them in my favourites. However I also tend to report those users who take the piss by disregarding the rules and terms of service of the website.

I regularly leave a polite notice on those deviations that feature erect penises, spread vaginas, spread arses etc. The comment is usually something like :

"Please review the following regarding explicit and pornographic images FAQ #565: You prohibit the submission of 'pornographic imagery'; what do you consider this to be?"

I think most people would agree that this is not aggressive, not patronising, not insulting and not demeaning.

However, I do get the odd user who will message me back with foul, abusive and insulting profanity. Their underlying message is that they are in the right and I am in the wrong. It doesn't matter about DA's policies regarding sexually explicit photography, they are always right because DA is wrong (and therefore by extension I am too). "Art is spontaneous and limitless" most sinners will say.

Well this message is my way of telling those of you who flout the rules a few things about me and my attitude to your 'artwork'.

-I do not care how right you feel you are, you are breaking the rules.
-I am not a policeman, officer, gestapo whatever.
-I am not scared of penises, sex, female genitalia or sexually explicit images.
-I am definitely not intimidated or scared of anyone on this website.
-I am perfectly happy with the size of my own penis, sexual orientation etc and I do not get envious over other men's penises.
-I am not envious regarding the number of page views I get or the number of times my deviations get 'favourited'.
-I am sick of the fappers, masturbaters, wankers who use this site as a way to get themselves off.
-I am sick of those who support users who break the rules of this site, in other words the straight, gay and bi male and female sycophants who leave perverted messages regarding what they would do with x y or z. Please take it somewhere else or take a cold shower.
-I am sick of those who leave nasty messages on deviations that have broken the rules/TOS. If you feed the trolls they will just come back at you, it also reflects badly on those of us who do this in a nice and supportive way.
-I am not responsible for your anger towards DA and their rules.
-I do this because I like DA and what it stands for. DA is not a pornography site and will never be. If you wish to post such images please go to flickr or xhamster.
-I am not perfect, but I understand the rules and TOS for this site. I have the right to report your deviations if they violate these.
-If you block me I can still report you, just in case you are not aware.
-If you sin with one deviation I will check your entire back catalogue of deviations to see that you don't have any more.
-If you are a serial offender don't be surprised if I leave a message on each deviation commentary and also on your page to ensure you are aware of the rules/TOS.
-When you become hostile, offensive, personal it is you who looks stupid and immature. Not me.

I hope this is now clear.
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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Think what you like, I couldn't care less what your opinion is.
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ZakuFox-Kun Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2015  Professional Writer
*Applauds you* Way to stand up against them, even when they tried to beat you down. I've had my share of debates regarding this subject and it really doesn't matter how many rules you bring up. They'll always believe they're right because...well, it would be such a pity if their free and virus-less porn was taken away, wouldn't it? *sarcasm*
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Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you for your support.
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Jenny345 Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014
Yes. Agreed. Nice.
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:iconpoisonmeforthefuture:
Beautifully and concisely put! :clap:
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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you
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MarcosDeDiego Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm Mostly offended by the stupid amount of mangakas wannabe, naruto worshippers and gothick imaginery, just to name a few. I am more offended by the levels of ultralow quality of most deviantArtIsts than for the amount of (presumably) Porn splashing all over DA. Overall, i'm mostly offended by the great piles of bad taste displayed un numerous profiles that declare him/herselfs artists.

But, you know, i'm happier spending my tme improving my skills ( or the lack of them) than patronicing or witchhunting "Perverts".

Yes, it's against the rules, but the rules are kinda blurry. 

Just to mention: an erected penis IS NOT PORN: Context, context, context ALLWAYS, and before that: quality and Taste.

And if ju didn't know, there are lots of people that fap at the most strage things possible...we can bann teddy bears because DA gets full of flurrylovers, or can we?

Dick is a name.

be aware that i asking for a polite exange of opinions, i expect the same. I am not being rude to you and i avoided direct insults. If you find my arguments bad or porrly exposed, i'll be most happy to share opinions with you.

(not starting a Flame war, just trying to water it before it gets hotter)
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lyiint Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2015
However, in DA's rules regarding erections it states: "There should be no use of imagery depicting an erect penis, however there may be exceptions granted to illustrations created for legitimate medical or educational purposes."  Personally, I've not seen illustrations with erect penis' being shown with the intent of medical or educational purposes on this site.

So what I'm respectfully saying is that it doesn't matter what we think of the rule, good or bad, well or poorly drawn, context or not, it is the rule of this site which we've all agreed to abide by when we signed up.  My feelings are if a person can't follow the rules, then they deserve to be reported and reap the consequences of the rule breaking. 

Being offended because some artists are not as good as other seems elitist to me.  Everyone has to start somewhere and the more they practice the better they get.  I think it's great you enjoy improving your skills, and I'm all for that no matter what skill level a person is at.     


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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Fair points, Dick is short for Rupert.
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MarcosDeDiego Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
And short for Richard  Nixon as in "Tricky Dick". Nasty Nickname, but a good one Don't you agree?

Thanks for being polite and all that...a conversation is better, allways, than a flame war.
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Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
As ever you are welcome
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MarcosDeDiego Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Glad to Know.
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Atrixfromice Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
WOW! This is really amazing! :wow: It's something that it was needed to be said since a loong time I think!! :nod: I hope we can be friends, and also anti-porn/theft Paladin too if you like! :excited: (like the other user said *chuckles*) Because I  truly appreciate deviantart a lot and what this comunity stands for! Deviantart was never a site for blatant imagery of other people's genitalia, torture and rape,  or any other kind of porn! that it's not art in any way and will never be! 
I think the points you said will clear up a lot of things for all those sinners, cos they are really well thought, precise, nice and clear! :D I think even I wouldn't have said this better! :wow:
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villamar Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013
I think your report is more than enough. There's no need for you to leave a message with the rules since you don't work for dA, therefore it's not up to you to apply the rules. Having you go around all those galleries leaving such kind of messages (even if they actually deserve them) makes you look like a stalker who has nothing more to do with your life.
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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I will do as I see fit.
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villamar Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013
I did a few reports to the links they put here on comments but that's all we can do. Everything else is unnecesary.
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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
 I disagree
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villamar Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
And what exactly you get out of stalking the "sinners"? I mean... besides pissing them off, block you and probably making them post even more porn?
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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Blocking doesn't stop reporting, this is my last message to you. I will block you if you message me again regarding this subject.
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villamar Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013
I don't see why you are so upset. I totally support reporting this kind of stuff. I'm just saying that talking to them doesn't do anything and it's not worth our time and in any case... it makes things worse. Not like I care too much if you block me anyway. I thought you were actually a mature person but I guess I was wrong and you just like to go around using the reports as a excuse to attack (even though it's actually a valid excuse it's still just a excuse).
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The-End-Inc Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Student
You know you are right about this. 
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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I am mature, so I will ignore this and just block you. Good bye
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Zadsa Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013
Can a spread vulva not be pornographic?
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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
No, not according to dA rules anyway
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Cruel-Quillish Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I always tell them that I agree that porn can be artistic as well, but their images have no artistic value and furthermore, it is still against the rules and will get them banned. They are free to find an art site that allows erotic art as well, but DA isn't the place. It sometimes calms them down.
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TrueMefista Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
*high fives*
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Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you
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loverofmythology Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
oh.my.god.

totally love you for this! i don't even bother putting a message up on their art anymore, i just report them and then check to see if they have any more (which they almost always do) and then move on. i don't understand how dA has suddenly become a porn site, but it really needs to stop, and i'm sick of the admins not doing anything about it anymore
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Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you, I am glad that I have allies on this site to combat all the negativity
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loverofmythology Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:iconthumbsupplz:
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KingaBritschgi Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2013  Professional General Artist
Well said. I need to add that I have the same reaction to the 'artistic' s/m flood that DA has. And not just photos but digital paintings, photomanips, etc. (big sigh)
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Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Agree, things are starting to slip
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HateFlash Featured By Owner May 17, 2013
LOL, yes you're so right :)

I usually also report what I can see against the rules, but i don't comment because I know that it's pointless.

They won't see their fault, they'll only reply aggressively.
After their sh*t gets deleted and they get blocked, they will start to think what has gone wrong.

Or they might just hopefully move to another site where their cheap pics are more accepted.
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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner May 17, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for your support, together we can keep the site an art site
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juliozzy Featured By Owner May 15, 2013
Great journal :thumbsup:
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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner May 15, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you :)
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juliozzy Featured By Owner May 19, 2013
Welcome! =)
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner May 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:thumbsup: couldn't have said it better myself. You have my support.
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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner May 15, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for the endorsement, much appreciated
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alecdawsonphoto Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2013  Professional Photographer
I wrote a journal entry on this too... [link]
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Lena-Uchiha8 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Indeed...
Agreed...
Well Said...
I applaud thee!!
:iconclapplz:
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:icongaelic-nautilus:
Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for your support :)
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Lena-Uchiha8 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You are VERY welcome sir~!!
C:
I've thought the same thing for a while but never wanted to write a journal about it
[[Didn't find it to be much of a problem, and was toooooo lazy]]
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Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Yet we have another idiot on this website see below. I have left his comments up so that everyone can examine what I have written in my journal and compare it to what this twit has written.
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SirIliadVanOvum Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
"you are breaking the RULES!" typical conformist :Libra horseshit. you're as grotesque as that Libra murderer George Zimmerman, who will burn in hell.
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BadPornSux Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
Do they speak English where you are from? I ask, because what you said makes no sense what so ever. It would be easier to know what you are on about if you could communicate clearly.
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manda091987 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
You are absolutely correct. I have seen some pretty obscene stuff on here and I was wondering what the rules were. There is a difference between porn and art. I love the human body... it can be a beautiful thing, male or female makes no difference. The point is in the sentence... BODY, not just certain parts of the body. It's demeans their potential to be good. People just need to make sure they run their pictures through some sort of photoshop or editor, but they also need to do something artistic. Taking a picture of my vagina isn't art, but if I incorporate my entire body (or at least more than that part) with color, nature, certain props such as a scarf or the like, it makes it more artistic. I do agree that there are people out there who could pay better attention to their work. We just need to go about it a nice way, if that person bites back then we report them. But there are ways to approach people. Thank you for posting this :) I completely agree.
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Gaelic-nautilus Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for your support :)
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